StonedAgeGrower
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Ok, makes sense. Thought you were insinuating Santana's only good work was the first album, and was, frankly, baffled.
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StonedAgeGrower
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Early 40s. Few people have heard of it. when i first posted Kyuss i even said it wasnt a terribly popular genre. however it was given the term Stoner Rock in the early 90s even tho many bands in the genre hate that term and prefer Stoner metal or Sludge or Doom.
Thats why I posted the wiki link to the Stoner Rock page as it would have cleared up the confusion
Stoner rock - Wikipedia
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StonedAgeGrower
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When I think of the quintessential Sludge/StonerRock/Doom sound it can be all traced back to this
Amos Otis
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I normally don't clarify 'likes' given, but feel it's important to note that the like was for the comment, not The Sword.Maybe this will illustrate my point. This video is The Sword, a pretty standard sound for the Sludge or Stoner Rock subgenre (which was called that long before I listened to it). Surely you can hear (and see) the Sabbath influence.
The sticking point seems to be you don't understand I'm talking about one specific genre and not saying "Rock that Stoners enjoy". I didn't invent the label Stoner rock, just using it.
Light one up, enjoy
StonedAgeGrower
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That's awesome you were on their road crew. BOC is criminally underrated! This one of my favorites of thiers. Metallica even pulled off a halfway decent cover of it
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The self titled debut of Black Sabbath is epic. They never came close to that again. I got off the bus with Fairies Wear Boots. The first lp with Ronny James had some terrific cuts.
StonedAgeGrower
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Their debut is their best by far, but I think Paranoid is a classic as well. Masters of Reality had some great tunes but wasn't amazing start to finish. Definitely some filler tracks. Vol 4 it just all went downhill.
Of all their non Ozzy singers Ronnie was the only one I thought was ever a good fit. Remember when they had Ian Gillan singing with them? Love him, love Deep Purple, but he just did not fit w Sabbath
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Amos Otis
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They've released 4 versions of Astronomy - 5 if you count Albert's recent Imaginos re-Imagined version. Ironically, this was one of their best songs in concert, as they stretched out the middle for one of many Don Roeser's [Buck Dharma] showcases. That was the one take away from even the worst BOC show - Buck Dharma was always worth more than the ticket price.That's awesome you were on their road crew. BOC is criminally underrated! This one of my favorites of thiers. Metallica even pulled off a halfway decent cover of it
The live recordings stayed fairly true to the version you posted [ with the extended guitar solos ], but it's significantly reworked for the Imaginos release, with Buck taking on the vocal. Ironically, everything besides the vocal is performed by non BOC players, with the exception of Albert's "A star ! " at the end, as it was originally recorded as an Albert Bouchard solo project
'It's the nexus of a crisis, the origin of storms'
Just the place to hopelessly encounter time.' - Sandy Pearlman
Stoner rock, indeed.
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StonedAgeGrower
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Thank you for sharing that
. That version is amazing! Unfortunately Ive never been able to see them live. I'm going to have to look up some more of these Imaginos versions for this evening's smoke sesh
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Blue Oyster Cult was intended to be a band that musically interpreted the writings of the recently deceased Sandy Pearlman, though to this day not even the band members could agree totally on what the hell he was getting at some of the time. The band was often referred to as 'the thinking man's rock band' for that reason.Thank you for sharing that
If you'd like to dig deep, the story behind Pearlman, BOC, and Imaginos is fascinating.
Imaginos - Wikipedia
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What's the meaning of "Astronomy" by Blue Oyster Cult?
Answer (1 of 4): Fasten your seatbelts children because we're going to "... show you hell and bring you back alive". Let's get the tame, literal stuff out of the way first. Astronomy is a song that appears on several different albums by the most lyrically imaginative heavy metal rock band that e...
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StonedAgeGrower
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Wow, I'm familiar w some of Pearlmans work, but had no idea that was the concept of the whole band! I was familiar w the connection he had w the lyrics in Astronomy, but thought that was just a passing thing.Blue Oyster Cult was intended to be a band that musically interpreted the writings of the recently deceased Sandy Pearlman, though to this day not even the band members could agree totally on what the hell he was getting at some of the time. The band was often referred to as 'the thinking man's rock band' for that reason.
If you'd like to dig deep, the story behind Pearlman, BOC, and Imaginos is fascinating.
Imaginos - Wikipedia
What's the meaning of "Astronomy" by Blue Oyster Cult?
Answer (1 of 4): Fasten your seatbelts children because we're going to "... show you hell and bring you back alive". Let's get the tame, literal stuff out of the way first. Astronomy is a song that appears on several different albums by the most lyrically imaginative heavy metal rock band that e...www.quora.com
I love to read up on things like this, I find music history infinitely fascinating, so thanks for sharing
Gonna be rolling a few up and doing some listening and reading Tonite
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
The list of his "musical projects and contributions" is almost more impressive than his main bands - Nirvana ain't exactly a side act though.
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H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Another lesser known musical genius was Danny Elfman. His pop music contributions were shit with Oingo Boingo - but he went on to score movies - like, LOTS of movies. Never cared for his music really, nor would I buy the movie soundtracks. But they were the orchestral monstrosities that fit every scene of the movie with whatever music seemed to be needed.
Amos Otis
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I disagree like infinity %.
I've seen a gazillion shows. None were better than Oingo Boingo. Zero. Zip.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
They were fun to watch, put on a great show - but no musical genius was evident in their shows or albums. Just a great party band in my opinion.
Ozjet68
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What? Not even the Traveling Wilburys? I’m shattered
H.A.F.
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Clapton, Page, Steve Windwood, etc. there were a hoard of musical giants in that particular era that all interacted in some way. I think the Wilbury's were the next generation.What? Not even the Traveling Wilburys? I’m shattered