I could give at rats fuck what anybody besides the good folks on here that visit both places has to say, that said I am not the one having My endeavors railed against. I am assuming People here have IQs higher than a cabbage and know some photoshopping is used on some pics, I personally don't care one way or another because I have grown enough to know what the strains I have ran are supposed to look like . Strains I havnt I will see when I grow them , Lighting , temp background all will influence what plants look like in pics. I havn't heard a single complaint on potency , vigor , germination ( except the BBC early on which has been rectified) from Heisen's gear . WTF do People want ? Like the People You see in Movies don't have 300 lbs of make up on . I suppose breeders could pay all these fuckers electric bills and grow the weed for em but they would find different reasons to bitch then too. FUCK EM. Also take into account the price You are getting the genetics at. I guarantee Breeders Like Heisen, Red, Schwaggy ect ect .pay a hell of a lot for some of the clones they use to provide folks with the beans. No good deed is ever left un punished in the cannabis world it seems at that is fucking sad.