Bonsai Mothers and Root Pruning

[Turpman]

It's a white cookies clone I got form a bud grafted to a lemon haze.. More of an experiment than anything. I have one flowering now but he said it doesn't have it in the flavor department so it will probly go. I slather everything in alow befor inserting and wrapping.

 

[yougrowyourway]

Starting my bonsai mother tent. Gonna do hydro for now until I can figure out soil. Got a QB 65 and 36x20x60 tent for them...reading about bonsai all these years then seeing what you have going helped me pull the trigger on doing it. Especially since I have some more ladies definitely worth keeping with my blueberry.

 

[High kev]

I’m also gonna get into regular pruning.

They will stretch after transplant and you need to prune to keep them small and bushy.

I’ll also include photos of how i prune with the “after” pics.

If only school was this interesting and fun

 

[Old ST1R]

Starting my bonsai mother tent. Gonna do hydro for now until I can figure out soil. Got a QB 65 and 36x20x60 tent for them...reading about bonsai all these years then seeing what you have going helped me pull the trigger on doing it. Especially since I have some more ladies definitely worth keeping with my blueberry.

Im thinking I’m gonna do the bonsai mothers as well. I’ve been looking at those three chamber tents. One of the small sections for the mothers, one small section for cloning and the large section for vegging, and I would use my current tent as the flower tent.

 

[BerryNice]

nice thread i like ty for information

 

[crimsonecho]

Starting my bonsai mother tent. Gonna do hydro for now until I can figure out soil. Got a QB 65 and 36x20x60 tent for them...reading about bonsai all these years then seeing what you have going helped me pull the trigger on doing it. Especially since I have some more ladies definitely worth keeping with my blueberry.

Soil is very easy by the way. They just need ewc to stay healthy ime. That tent should be enough and you really dont need much light. I run 25 watts or so of leds in this 2x2x2. Well i’m glad i helped incentivise you to try it.

 

[crimsonecho]

Im thinking I’m gonna do the bonsai mothers as well. I’ve been looking at those three chamber tents. One of the small sections for the mothers, one small section for cloning and the large section for vegging, and I would use my current tent as the flower tent.

Thats very nice. I always wanted one of those chambered tents. It just makes sense keeping everything tidy and together. Another space saver imo.

 

[crimsonecho]

nice thread i like ty for information

Glad you liked it man. Whats your situation there got any bonsai?

 

[crimsonecho]

If only school was this interesting and fun

I definitely offer more fun than school dude good to know that vibe gets thru

 

[yougrowyourway]

Im thinking I’m gonna do the bonsai mothers as well. I’ve been looking at those three chamber tents. One of the small sections for the mothers, one small section for cloning and the large section for vegging, and I would use my current tent as the flower tent.

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[crimsonecho]

Ok here is an update on the mothers and new clones. I moved them under floros because i needed the mini tent for the solo cup plant. Well anyway i’m doing 4hrs on/ 4hrs off for these gals now. It saves electricity and helps with the heat. Its been about a week, no signs of any problems yet. I got clones flowering at 16/8. Blueberry #3 did that for example and now its revegging again. So i’m trying 4/4 now.

 

[crimsonecho]

4/4 is going great. No ill effects. Again i moved them to the tent. Which is actually not ideal. The leds are too close and they just explode with growth, get too close, without feeding, they exhibit symptoms of various deficiencies. We are not there yet. Also gave them a good pruning.

 

[crimsonecho]

4/4 cycle is still going strong. No adverse effects on the bonsai mothers. They don’t grow too much and they don’t go into flower either. Just chilling and doing their thing. So this light schedule might be perfect for bonsai mothers. I have to keep them at this and establish the long term effects, if there are any.

I do pruning bi-weekly maybe. To tops come off to keep them from growing into the light. Light is a cheap pcb board for a wallwasher unit. Unknown diodes and all that. 25w. It suffices.

 

[Gweedo]

Man glad i found this im currently trying to get 4 of these bonsai moms going as we speak, got one rooting over from a hydro clone its a chem91, did another yesterday from a rooted cherry pie clone, and currently waiting on a GSC to take root so i can get it potted up, im gonna be bugging you come pruning time for sure, i always hate trying out brand new techniques i second guess myself way too much

 

[crimsonecho]

Man glad i found this im currently trying to get 4 of these bonsai moms going as we speak, got one rooting over from a hydro clone its a chem91, did another yesterday from a rooted cherry pie clone, and currently waiting on a GSC to take root so i can get it potted up, im gonna be bugging you come pruning time for sure, i always hate trying out brand new techniques i second guess myself way too much

Nice line up man. Its no bother. The technique is pretty simple and effective but i’d be happy to help if you need anything.

 

[crimsonecho]

Looking fine in a bigger tent! Finaly got rid of that tent shaped tent. Hahah.

No adverse effects from 4/4 still. They all look healthy and i had clones in there waiting to root. 4/4 had no detrimental effects on the rooting process either. These 3 on the front rooted in a week. 2 discarded cuts had white bumps but i only needed 3.

So it seems 4/4 works for cloning also.

I can fit 42 bonsai mothers total in this 2x2. I keep 2-3 of each. Thats a whole lot of fire in a tiny tent.

 

[Old ST1R]

Looking fine in a bigger tent! Finaly got rid of that tent shaped tent. Hahah.

No adverse effects from 4/4 still. They all look healthy and i had clones in there waiting to root. 4/4 had no detrimental effects on the rooting process either. These 3 on the front rooted in a week. 2 discarded cuts had white bumps but i only needed 3.

So it seems 4/4 works for cloning also.

I can fit 42 bonsai mothers total in this 2x2. I keep 2-3 of each. Thats a whole lot of fire in a tiny tent.

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What light are you running in that 2x2?

 

[crimsonecho]

What light are you running in that 2x2?

These have been under 30 watts of the shittiest leds you can find man. The fixture was so cheap it was basically free. No name SMDs which runs at 220v. Driverless. No heatsink. Gets hotter than the sun. I actually hate it. They flicker, they have a galling green hue to them etc etc. But they work for now.

It has been a couple of weeks under these already and what i like about this light is that the plants don’t really grow under it. They just stay alive. Which is better for bonsai. But i’m gonna upgrade soon. I’m thinking led t5s or something similar. Again at 30 watts or something.

 

[Old ST1R]

These have been under 30 watts of the shittiest leds you can find man. The fixture was so cheap it was basically free. No name SMDs which runs at 220v. Driverless. No heatsink. Gets hotter than the sun. I actually hate it. They flicker, they have a galling green hue to them etc etc. But they work for now.

It has been a couple of weeks under these already and what i like about this light is that the plants don’t really grow under it. They just stay alive. Which is better for bonsai. But i’m gonna upgrade soon. I’m thinking led t5s or something similar. Again at 30 watts or something.

I still want one of those three chamber tents. I was looking at the sun blaster led’s for the mother and clone areas and some cheapo led for the veg area.

 

[crimsonecho]

I still want one of those three chamber tents. I was looking at the sun blaster led’s for the mother and clone areas and some cheapo led for the veg area.

Well thats your call of course. But 30 watts of the worst leds out there can do this. Not bad. For bonsai not bad at all. I run about 50 in the veg area (2x2). Better light on that side. One pcb at 50w mounted on a heatsink. Works well. Good amount of light is being produced on that side. So its all about the quality of the thing.

Again tho, i don’t need bonsai to grow vigorously. I just need them to stay alive. So lower wattage is better as long as i can keep them healthy.