Skunk Hunters

[Zaphod420]

Unless it's some kind of DNA extraction magic.

I've been soaked to the bone in that gear in fresh water, salt water and pool water. If they didn't germinate then ain't no way amigo.

That would be some shit though, having a little sprout pop out of a mag pouch lol.

Hmmm... Salute @Turpman , do you maybe know how (or if it's even possible) to bring dead/old beans back to life? Cheers, Z.

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

I've said it before and after everything I have heard and read AND experienced, The skunk weed was not that great. If it was we wouldn't be hunting for it like this. People are nostalgic for the smell - period. That smell for me was associated with the first weed I got in a little baggie that was NOT brick weed.

The very first plant you grew was probably pitifully grown, harvested early, dried in a hurry and smoked as soon as it would burn - and it was the best weed you had ever smoked at the time. By your standards now it was boof, but nostalgically it is still the best weed you ever tried at that point. There is a difference in high from fresher weed to aged weed, and the first time you feel that it is memorable. And it can happen in stages. The best weed you ever smoked is only the best weed you have ever smoked. Each milestone is memorable.

Back to the skunk it was that milestone for me, probably in 1979-80 as a h.s. freshman. The first fresh, non-compressed kind-bud I ever saw AND smelled. I remember my face felt cool and numb-ish, and everything was hillarious. I don't remember how long it lasted. We had a lot and smoked a lot, and I think maybe it just more like a dab-rig headrush than a long-term stone.

I remember it being tasty - but we have tasty now, and lots of better weed.

You seem to think "farmers" didn't know how to grow back then. lol
We were taught gardening when we were kids and could grow the hell out of stuff.
If it didn't knock your socks off back then, people wouldn't be hunting for it as bad as they are today. lol
Let's just agree to disagree.

 

[H.A.F.]

You seem to think "farmers" didn't know how to grow back then. lol

Never said that. I mean each of us when we grew our first shitty plant it was great comparatively

If it didn't knock your socks off back then, people wouldn't be hunting for it as bad as they are today.

That is exactly wrong. In the era when skunk was prevelent, so was prohibition. ALL weed sold. Ones like skunk were coveted because they had a different buzz from the long-flowering thin-leaf's everyone had at the time, and they produced bulk that was ripe and harvested before the helicopters started flying in the late fall. All it had to do was get you high, and I never said it didn't. It was just that compared to what was mostly available at the time it was the "new".

When OG's rolled around, or the first thing that had bulk, and finished quick, and had knock-down potency the people that were growing bulk for the masses switched. The only people that may have kept it were those preserving a favorite headstash. And when everything newer was better those people shitcanned it too.

The Superskunk, Skunk1, etc from the catalogs is not skunk. Never smelled like skunk. It had the same growth characteristics with different smells.
People grew those for a while too then they lost favor.

It is exactly why no one is growing Big Bud today. If Bug Bud was that great how could it ever be replaced as a production plant?

 

[H.A.F.]

Never said that. I mean each of us when we grew our first shitty plant it was great comparatively

To expand on that, we know now that our impression then was way off, but it was how we felt at the time. I know intellectually that the first harvest was anything but great, I would decarb it now. But everything surrounding that little sample of flower made it special so it will always be remembered fondly. Even though it was the midsiest crap ever.

 

[SimpleJak]

Yeah for me, I think it is the nostalgia and curiosity of how it compares now. I honestly probably didnt have a legit skunk strain and probably some hybrid that had some deep skunky funk to it. It had no name and was just "dude try out this skunky ass shit". I remember enjoying it of course... So i think that is the nostalgia. But I am curious to see in the present day, how I would rate it, feel about the high, and if the loudness of the funk is really worth whatever high/potency the strain brings. And if it was worth it, see if it would actually bring about some good hybrids.

Sucks to have lost such a unique strain, I'm sure largely to prohibition.

 

[H.A.F.]

Yeah for me, I think it is the nostalgia and curiosity of how it compares now. I honestly probably didnt have a legit skunk strain and probably some hybrid that had some deep skunky funk to it. It had no name and was just "dude try out this skunky ass shit". I remember enjoying it of course... So i think that is the nostalgia. But I am curious to see in the present day, how I would rate it, feel about the high, and if the loudness of the funk is really worth whatever high/potency the strain brings. And if it was worth it, see if it would actually bring about some good hybrids.

Sucks to have lost such a unique strain, I'm sure largely to prohibition.

And if you expand on that, the smell was probably THE thing that made it memorable. The other day I opened some flower from a lime cross and it still smells exactly like cilantro. I like the buzz, and it has flavor that is mostly a tart citrus, but the smell will make me remember it. First time I smelled that from a plant.

Same with the skunk. I remember pine too, but I was mostly amazed that a plant could smell like that, and it got you high.

 

[Deleted member 2835]

Unless it's some kind of DNA extraction magic.

I've been soaked to the bone in that gear in fresh water, salt water and pool water. If they didn't germinate then ain't no way amigo.

That would be some shit though, having a little sprout pop out of a mag pouch lol.

You would be amazed they've allegedly brought back 20,000 year old seeds.

 

[Deleted member 2835]

Anyone here remember Christmas tree bud? lime green nugs with bright red hairs. Smelled like pine-sol.

 

[Deleted member 2835]

Or hemi?

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

I beg to differ. Most of what you all smoked was shitty weed. Fermented and moldy and labeled Skunk. Some of us had access to the best around at the time.
Your tune would quickly change if you got a hold a real old school Skunk, not Skunk #1 and all that BS.
This is the very reason people don't turn loose of their Skunk seed.
It always turns into a pissing contest about the Skunks past.
The reason why it was no longer being grown is because of its "putrid" smell. There is no hiding it. It drew way too much attention and now that most of the country is legal, people want it back.

 

[Deleted member 2835]

How about the original cut of blueberry? Had that many moons ago along with Indiana bubblegum and g-13.

 

[Deleted member 2835]

I beg to differ. Most of what you all smoked was shitty weed. Fermented and moldy and labeled Skunk. Some of us had access to the best around at the time.
Your tune would quickly change if you got a hold a real old school Skunk, not Skunk #1 and all that BS.
This is the very reason people don't turn loose of their Skunk seed.
It always turns into a pissing contest about the Skunks past.
The reason why it was no longer being grown is because of its "putrid" smell. There is no hiding it. It drew way too much attention and now that most of the country is legal, people want it back.

I get the theory that breeders bred away from the smell but have you ever heard an actual breeder claim to do such a thing?

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

I get the theory that breeders bred away from the smell but have you ever heard an actual breeder claim to do such a thing?

I never associated with other breeders. I have stayed in isolation from all of this.
And I still keep mine separated from today's weed.
And that's why I still carry the genes.
Once a person says they have it, then the shit starts.
I try and keep my mouth shut anymore because there are very few of us that have kept it alive.

 

[H.A.F.]

I get the theory that breeders bred away from the smell but have you ever heard an actual breeder claim to do such a thing?

Skunkman Sam said that - but he also ratted out a bunch of people and fled to Europe with their genetics. So I'm not sure I believe much of what he says.

I never associated with other breeders. I have stayed in isolation from all of this.
And I still keep mine separated from today's weed.
And that's why I still carry the genes.
Once a person says they have it, then the shit starts.
I try and keep my mouth shut anymore because there are very few of us that have kept it alive.

I never said anyone has or doesn't have it - no skin off my ass either way. But you have people on here claiming that I must not have had access to good weed because they did - or something like that.

I have smelled stuff in the random things I grow that are skunky, and other smells. I just haven't grown one yet that stayed "skunk" after harvest. You might get some rankness, but not the stuff that permeated the room just because you had a baggie of it in your sock.

Any of us who went to middle and high school in the late 70's and early 80's were buying weed from hippies and deadheads that had the best stuff available. Us metal heads would go to Dead shows just because Shakedown street was where the best weed was, or where you could make an easy buck if you had good weed. Never bought a ticket to listen to that country-ass folk music - but good weed is good weed.

 

[H.A.F.]

What I realized is that I remember the smell, where I was, who was there, how much fun we had, whatever - but it was just decent sensi bud that was actually green and sticky. Not the high.

We were getting bud from Kalifornia and New York as well as stuff from other countries, but in the prohib era anything from elsewhere had to be smuggled and it was not gonna be the best looking stuff at the end of the trip. It was still just as good to smoke but it usually wasn't green and sticky. On the east coast the skunk weed was local-ish and you could get it before it got pressed into a brick for transport.

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

What I realized is that I remember the smell, where I was, who was there, how much fun we had, whatever - but it was just decent sensi bud that was actually green and sticky. Not the high.

We were getting bud from Kalifornia and New York as well as stuff from other countries, but in the prohib era anything from elsewhere had to be smuggled and it was not gonna be the best looking stuff at the end of the trip. It was still just as good to smoke but it usually wasn't green and sticky. On the east coast the skunk weed was local-ish and you could get it before it got pressed into a brick for transport.

It's our environments we each grew up in that we differ so much. I grew up in the country and was raised on a dairy farm and to say that people couldn't grow top shelf weed is entirely wrong. We are in between the coasts. Some of those seeds were put in the hands of experienced farmers, to come back and collect product, not a bunch of college kids and hippies trying to grow for the first time. Not knocking them in any way. I have no idea what made it to the cities, but I assure you, it wasn't the farmers personal stashes of their best seed lines. But local folks did get some access to those "elite" lines. I was just fortunate to have been able to experience growing those very first Skunks. Not very many of us left. It was all over by 1981. From then on it was all about hiding that fucking smell. You couldn't do it. It was a dead give away.
I'm not gonna judge anyone on what they say like with Sam. I don't know the man.
Skunk was around long before Sam. I think 1976 sounds about right. I got it in fall of 78'.
Skunk needed to be "tamed down" but not take all the Skunk ester smell away. Something is missing today and the old timers know it.
That fucking simple. The world changed overnight.

 

[H.A.F.]

and to say that people couldn't grow top shelf weed is entirely wrong.

Are you daft? I still never said that - JEEZ!

 

[H.A.F.]

I grew up in the country and was raised on a dairy farm and

...and growing weed ain't growing tomatoes or feeding cattle, and it takes AT LEAST one grow to figure out the rules. Especially back when there was no interwebs and very little literature to figure stuff out. If you got a perfect weed harvest your first try indoors with no help from an experienced grower I'll kiss your ass.

The damn point wasn't about growing - it was about the fact that even if that first harvest is shit compared to your standards today, it was great at the time. Like the first time we smoked skunk - which was great at the time, but by todays standards wouldn't be a keeper cut unless you liked the smell.

 

[Fiddler's Green]

I'll attest to this, my first grow in 2019 I grew some of the best herb I've ever had. Each grow has gotten better AND easier thanks to the gems and gold nuggets you guys dropped over the years (I just have to figure out the dry lol). Once I figure out how to finish drying I know that it will be even better than the first grow.

I've smelled and smoked some skunky stuff in the past (mid to late 90s) but when it comes to the 70s-80s jazz cabbage I'm a noob because I don't have a baseline for the old school funk.

Sorry, it was a good wake and bake

 

[Turpman]

I’ve only used a good dose of hydrogen peroxide for 12hrs or so then rinse and pure water.

If you see a bit of fuzz (mycelium) coming out the end they are usually toast.

Cracking. I just read a tip on cracking. If you have a measuring micrometer one that can close all the way usually 0-1”you can use it to pinch the seed very controlled to crack it before the dunk. I’ve read of people using their teeth. Don’t think I’m that skilled LOL

Probly in this case the use of gibrilic acid would be my rout.

I’ve don’t know much about embryo rescue?
Probly a combination of sterilizing the seed. Cracking. Removing the in needs. And possibly culturing in tissue culture with high gibrillic acid.
I think it’s pretty easy to get amazon etc. it is available from the usual TC suppliers.

I’d give it a go if someone was interested. It would be a hell of a lot esier than merristem TC. I’ve been playing with the dissecting scope and TC to see if I can get something to live.
These are way to big to call merristem, stem tip culture maybe.

Real hard to photograph a merristem. If indeed these are small enough.
This was a couple days ago still looks alive.

Hmmm... Salute @Turpman , do you maybe know how (or if it's even possible) to bring dead/old beans back to life? Cheers, Z.