Keeper male?

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Mudballs

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Lol ...fkn awesome day at chuckers paradise this morning 😂
Edit, wheres the music thread fk these clowns
 

Lanestrainley

Really Active Member
Water - Safety Data Sheet (chemicalbook.com)

excerpt

SECTION 8: Exposure controls/personal protection
control parameter
Hazard composition and occupational exposure limits
Does not contain substances with occupational exposure limits.
Exposure controls
Appropriate engineering controls
Handle in accordance with good industrial hygiene and safety practice.
Personal protective equipment
Skin protection

Handle with gloves. Gloves must be inspected prior to use. Use proper glove removal technique (without touching glove's outer surface) to avoid skin contact with this product. Dispose of contaminated gloves after use in accordance with applicable laws and good laboratory practices. Wash and dry hands.
The selected protective gloves have to satisfy the specifications of Regulation (EU) 2016/425 and the standard EN 374 derived from it.
Full contact
Material: Nitrile rubber
Minimum layer thickness: 0,11 mm Break through time: 480 min
Material tested: Dermatril? (KCL 740 / Aldrich Z677272, Size M)
Splash contact Material: Nitrile rubber
Minimum layer thickness: 0,11 mm Break through time: 480 min
Material tested: Dermatril? (KCL 740 / Aldrich Z677272, Size M)
data source: KCL GmbH, D-36124 Eichenzell, phone +49 (0)6659 87300, e-mail [email protected], test method: EN374
If used in solution, or mixed with other substances, and under conditions which differ from EN 374, contact the supplier of the EC approved gloves. This recommendation is advisory only and must be evaluated by an industrial hygienist and safety officer familiar with the specific situation of anticipated use by our customers. It should not be construed as offering an approval for any specific use scenario.
Now do some elements that we give our plants. Please tell me what boron, copper and sulpher will do to you when smoked and inhaled. Show me that sheet, if you’re using that to support you telling me that I’m telling people to use this, rather than how, you’re going to need a new argument.
 
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Is this the same thing as dutchmasters reverse? I know they use the chemical in reverse for making seedless watermelons.
 
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Nevermind the chemical I'm thinking of is colchicine
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
No...no they dont.
Source:coatings industry employee for 10+yrs
I am agreeing that the product mentioned is dangerous, but using the MSDS as a source is not really helpful. That's like citing CNN or Fox as a news source.

If you had to deal with MSDS on the regular (as did I) you know that it is not there for your safety. It is a legal document to prevent lawsuits against all the chemical companies for producing something dangerous that idiots misuse. Anything and everything that can possibly go wrong is included as a legal barrier. Like the "WARNING: COFFEE MAY BE HOT" label.

It is good for deciding which type of filter cartridge you may need on your respirator while dealing with it, but that's just about the major compounds in it, not what they do. Other than that MSDS's are pretty useless. The warning label on a product is usually the most effective - especially those with the fold-out 20-page pamphlets glued to a 4oz bottle of something ;)
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Well...you didnt use a meme, so I'll give you credit for that.
If it helps you have a little faith in my judgement, I had no clue what I would find when I searched for the MSDS for water - but I know how MSDS work. Most of the document says nothing, which is why I included the link. But there is ALWAYS some cut-n-paste bullshit that seems to be there only to cover someone's ass.
 

Mudballs

Active Member
Please stop...ur the one that didnt get put on ignore cuz i hold out half a hope for you. Ok today you flubbed, suck it up, dont be that other schmuck. Sit down students...
 

Lanestrainley

Really Active Member
Seems like you’re the only schmuck here. Lol, sit down and learn something kiddo. Everyone loves to talk shit on these bs forums, the truth is you know next to nothing about botany or plant science, your precisely the reason that I almost never visit these sites, you’re not my peer, not even close, youre just guessing here and have no field or scientific evidence to support your claims. Zero. On the other hand, I saw a total of 5 400 plant rooms sprayed with shift last week, a company with shareholders and a stock price, and they’re not the only ones doing it. Lol. Seriously man, you need to go to school and you’d know what’s going on after it’s sprayed. That’s where I learned it. A college just for agro, you learn about all five plant hormones amongst many other things and yes ethylene is one of them. If you care to read up on it, look for the conversions of 2-chloroethylphosphonic acid into ethylene. I’m done with this and you kiddo.
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Seems like you’re the only schmuck here. Lol, sit down and learn something kiddo. Everyone loves to talk shit on these bs forums, the truth is you know next to nothing about botany or plant science, your precisely the reason that I almost never visit these sites, you’re not my peer, not even close, youre just guessing here and have no field or scientific evidence to support your claims.
Here's the part where you prove you are an idiot.

You know none of us, our careers, our qualifications, etc. but you "know" you are better than us...

I've known cats like you before, we called them "one-uppers". No matter what you had done , they did it better, or first, of got paid mmpore for it, or whatever.

If you went to college for agro you learned salt science. Everything else is hocus-pocus to the college scene which is supported by Big Ag and promotes students into their industry.
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
what problem did the cookies and crosses [email protected].
My problem with them is they are either decent smoke or they herm. Never had any that rocked my world, and even the culls were pretty until they threw those nanners. It's kids have potential to hunt through, but you better keep a clone of the one that did well because the rest probably suck. Probably why there are so many cookie-pheno or cookie-hybrid clone-only's.
 

Lanestrainley

Really Active Member
Here's the part where you prove you are an idiot.

You know none of us, our careers, our qualifications, etc. but you "know" you are better than us...

I've known cats like you before, we called them "one-uppers". No matter what you had done , they did it better, or first, of got paid mmpore for it, or whatever.

If you went to college for agro you learned salt science. Everything else is hocus-pocus to the college scene which is supported by Big Ag and promotes students into their industry.
Never said anything of the sort. You’re an idiot and I’ll leave you to your ways.
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Also - anyone comparing cannabis to any other form of industrial agriculture is pretty lame. The sheer number of traits and genes contained in the plant is vastly more than any other cash crop. And the more we learn the more we know we don't know about everythig that is in there and how it works. From terps to flavinoids, all cannabinoids, thiols, esters, all interacting in each plant in a different way.

After doing a lot of reading and listening to breeders on podcasts I think trying to select a "keeper male" requires more time and effort than many are willing to put into one project. Testing lots of seeds to see what he gave that others didn't and having to test the seeds from those other males too...

We have no clue genetically what traits we may be excluding from a strain as we select for certain other traits. IMHO if making seeds I'd want to use every male in available and keep that line pure and wide open.

We don't know what we don't know, and there won't be enough research until it is federally de-scheduled and federal grants start flying to buy votes. Universities will also be getting funded by big pharma to find this or that specific thing they can put in a pill and sell. All the Big Ag and Big Pharma will dump shitloads into R&D to try and mold the plant into what they need or figure out how to replicate it in a lab.
 

Lanestrainley

Really Active Member
My problem with them is they are either decent smoke or they herm. Never had any that rocked my world, and even the culls were pretty until they threw those nanners. It's kids have potential to hunt through, but you better keep a clone of the one that did well because the rest probably suck. Probably why there are so many cookie-pheno or cookie-hybrid clone-only's.
Here's the part where you prove you are an idiot.

You know none of us, our careers, our qualifications, etc. but you "know" you are better than us...

I've known cats like you before, we called them "one-uppers". No matter what you had done , they did it better, or first, of got paid mmpore for it, or whatever.

If you went to college for agro you learned salt science. Everything else is hocus-pocus to the college scene which is supported by Big Ag and promotes students into their industry.
My garden runs on Goats and ducks, and plants from the fresh water around here, I’ve got the pics to prove it too, so I laugh at your suggestions of salts on MY garden. But yeah, there are those that ask my advice that use salts, I have no problem with them, they cost a lot, but if you know how to use them with labs and fpe and some enzyme, and only “salt” the root zone to around 1.4ec you’re golden. So salts be damned, the goal is a high brix plant for flavours and terps. Get the the same way no matter what, one’s easier and ones cheaper.
 

Lanestrainley

Really Active Member
Also - anyone comparing cannabis to any other form of industrial agriculture is pretty lame. The sheer number of traits and genes contained in the plant is vastly more than any other cash crop. And the more we learn the more we know we don't know about everythig that is in there and how it works. From terps to flavinoids, all cannabinoids, thiols, esters, all interacting in each plant in a different way.

After doing a lot of reading and listening to breeders on podcasts I think trying to select a "keeper male" requires more time and effort than many are willing to put into one project. Testing lots of seeds to see what he gave that others didn't and having to test the seeds from those other males too...

We have no clue genetically what traits we may be excluding from a strain as we select for certain other traits. IMHO if making seeds I'd want to use every male in available and keep that line pure and wide open.

We don't know what we don't know, and there won't be enough research until it is federally de-scheduled and federal grants start flying to buy votes. Universities will also be getting funded by big pharma to find this or that specific thing they can put in a pill and sell. All the Big Ag and Big Pharma will dump shitloads into R&D to try and mold the plant into what they need or figure out how to replicate it in a lab.
Go to sleep old man.
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Never said anything of the sort. You’re an idiot and I’ll leave you to your ways.
Really???

you know next to nothing about botany or plant science, your precisely the reason that I almost never visit these sites, you’re not my peer, not even close, youre just guessing here and have no field or scientific evidence to support your claims.
This is the last effort I'll put in before hitting ignore. Really showed your colors today...
 
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