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u have them turning on from the looks of things.
Streetpro09
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I suppose they're talking about already rooted clones? Quite the talk around in what they mean by 56-73 days.
Even with those numbers you're talking about a 46 day flowering period. That's just over 6 and a half weeks.
Not saying it's not possible but to a new grower, it's very misleading. Misleading=marketing hype. Why mislead your customer base if the product works so well?
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I'm high so trying to wrap my head around this 56-73 days scenario is a bit difficult but here goes...I suppose they're talking about already rooted clones? Quite the talk around in what they mean by 56-73 days.
Even with those numbers you're talking about a 46 day flowering period. That's just over 6 and a half weeks.
Use a cultivar that legit finishes under 12/12 at 56 days or less and is rocket ship in flower and at least doubles or > in the first 3 weeks. I think I would use Magic Melon from Humboldt or Lemon Frosting L4 pheon from Heise as I have had cuts of both those strains throw roots in 5 days and then had pretty decent rootball underneath them in another 7 days. so lets say 12 days veg. If I could then hit them for 52 days of 13/11 with far & deep red tuning I could theoretically put them to bed early and also wake them up early so they are able to do the same amount of work in less time and I would essentially be time traveling them 2hrs a day so 2 X 52=104/24=4.3 total days gained by manipulating the lights. I think I could probably do it in 64 days but man that is a lot of stuff you have to have dialed and I totally agree very misleading. What is scary is I bet there are people out there doing it.
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I think the main thing that speeds up the process is the lighting it starts out 12/12 then to 11/13 and finally to 10/14 that and crop steering.
I decided against going 13/11 this time around because last round I thought I was giving them 15 minutes of far red when I was actually giving them 12 hours and 15 minutes and I think that made my buds airy and take forever to finish
I decided against going 13/11 this time around because last round I thought I was giving them 15 minutes of far red when I was actually giving them 12 hours and 15 minutes and I think that made my buds airy and take forever to finish
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Yea I'm stuck on the 56 day thing. I don't doubt it has been done but to lead people to think they could have a decent crop in that time...... guess I'm just used to pulling 4oz plus per plant? Maybe the perfect pheno of the perfect strain.
Doesn't seem easily repeatable either. One little hiccup and ..... well.... you're back to normal time. I have read where manipulating the lights on time during the grow can speed things up significantly. This i would believe easier than some kind of nutrients. I was assuming that's what it was (nutes) when you said something about floaflex turn and burn program. Got a link for it?
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Yea I'm stuck on the 56 day thing. I don't doubt it has been done but to lead people to think they could have a decent crop in that time...... guess I'm just used to pulling 4oz plus per plant? Maybe the perfect pheno of the perfect strain.
I have read where manipulating the lights on time during the grow can speed things up significantly. This i would believe easier than some kind of nutrients. I was assuming that's what it was (nutes) when you said something about floaflex turn and burn program. Got a link for it?
FloraFlex Burn & Turn | The Grow Guide Of The Future
"Burn & Turn" was inspired by efficiency, trying to find methods just as, if not more effective than those of the past while still maximizing quality and yield. Over the past year we have conceptualized, applied and refined dozens of concepts in our research and development rooms, and are now...
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Streetpro09
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Would be more believable if they used pictures of actual plants and actual grows to show growth rate instead of some computer generated model of their expectations. Idk guess i don't trust anyone until i see the proof. Especially when it comes to money.I'm using athena ag nutrients and don't plan on changing that for floraflex which cost more per run.FloraFlex Burn & Turn | The Grow Guide Of The Future
"Burn & Turn" was inspired by efficiency, trying to find methods just as, if not more effective than those of the past while still maximizing quality and yield. Over the past year we have conceptualized, applied and refined dozens of concepts in our research and development rooms, and are now...
Cool idea and obviously alot of thought went into it. I'll be watching your grows for sure and seeing if you can duplicate what they're claiming.
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I'm failing to see where this program costs anything? If anything it will save me money through
reduced labor, electricity, reduced nutrients and hopefully time. But I understand anyone's apprehension towards something new.
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Streetpro09
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Well I'm sure they designed this schedule to sell their products. It's probably not going to cost you any more money but id believe you've spent plenty already to even think about using this schedule.
Anyway... I'm not trying to argue at this point, i just thought it was odd to start and finish a complete grow in 56 days. I'll be keeping my eyes peeled to see if you can pull it off.
Streetpro09
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Then once you do the 56 day thing once ill be looking to see you do it consecutively. Then i might believe it's not all hype or marketing.
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You might be waiting awhile I have at least 1 or 2 big seed grows to do...but it shouldn't matter that much. I'll just count from flip and see if I harvest any sooner. Not sure if it will do anything much this round as I just started it in what day 30? I am expecting a bit faster harvest this time as I have the far red treatments down(I hope?)
Streetpro09
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I'm sure it's going to take some practice. Maybe by the 10th round you'll have it down.
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3rd round for sure...lol Just have to finish pheno hunting firstI'm sure it's going to take some practice. Maybe by the 10th round you'll have it down.
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I could use my mimosa x orange punch cut that finishes in 55 days under normal lighting and feedings.
Streetpro09
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That sounds like a great starting place. At least you have a known base to go from. Should make seeing if the burn and turn method actually does what they claim.
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So fuck me...went out of town for Thanksgiving week and came home to half of my crop wiped out due to a bad pump...So out of the 32 I started only 14 will make it... Not sure what helped this round get down so quick either it was the turn and burn and/or the far red treatments either way I figure it will save me 2 weeks.
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and now envy, creeps in!
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Lol remember I grow midz...and now envy, creeps in!