When do you take clones?

[H.A.F.]

No I'm not talking about veg or flower. You search the internet and all you get is people telling you you can't take clones in flower -

I am talking about specifics, like

time of day (near lights on - middle - near lights off)
In relation to when they were watered last (same day - day after - right before watering)

Stuff like that which usually doesn't come up in a "how to clone" conversation, but probably effects success rate.

Thanks

 

[Big Perm]

Great question.
I try to take mine just before lights on and when they need watered. I've found that this dramatically speeds up my cloning times and the clone is perky when lights come on. I also don't change the veg light schedule they were on before cloning.

 

[H.A.F.]

Great question.
I try to take mine just before lights on and when they need watered. I've found that this dramatically speeds up my cloning times and the clone is perky when lights come on. I also don't change the veg light schedule they were on before cloning.

Awesome stuff. I have a few special cuts I am getting ready to clone. They are still small and don't have a lot of candidates, but I want to smoke it

I want to take one or two from each and have the best chance of them taking. Makes sense on the watering thing. Whatever solution you have with the rooting hormones and such would get that initial uptake. Just didn't know if that was a good or bad thing LOL

 

[JohnFonda]

No I'm not talking about veg or flower. You search the internet and all you get is people telling you you can't take clones in flower -

I am talking about specifics, like

time of day (near lights on - middle - near lights off)
In relation to when they were watered last (same day - day after - right before watering)

Stuff like that which usually doesn't come up in a "how to clone" conversation, but probably effects success rate.

Thanks

I take mine a few hours after watering. Having the cut full of water may be a bit counterproductive from above experience but having the cut full of water helps prevent embolisms and keeps out the nasties. Light feed before taking if hydro.

 

[Fiddler's Green]

I've never given timing any consideration, good question. I've mainly taken cuts in the middle of the day/light cycle when I have time. But I water after taking cuts with the bro-science idea that it'll help with the shock on both the mom and cutting.

 

[JohnFonda]

I've never given timing any consideration, good question. I've mainly taken cuts in the middle of the day/light cycle when I have time. But I water after taking cuts with the bro-science idea that it'll help with the shock on both the mom and cutting.

You dont want to take a cut from a dry plant that's for sure. Perms idea makes sense. Being more hungry and thirsty will make the clone want to root to survive faster in theory. Moisture contact and aeration around the rooting area is also key. A good feed of bennies and aminos tend to help healing. Taking from a plant that is undergoing positive pressure in its system is the safest route. Depending on your system etc this is usually a couple hours after watering. Drips etc are always sipping. This prevents the wound from immediate contamination on both ends. Still put the cut in water immediately. [/QUOTE]

 

[DET—PDX]

Anytime, my bed stays at field capacity on drip. You want to wait a few hours if you reached saturation.

 

[High kev]

He’s trying to contact administration he must of smoked a dub

 

[Fiddler's Green]

 

[Vee]

I only take my clones when she is on the 'rag' something to do with the moon and shit,
see it as a giant shock wave that hits the earth every 6 hours, then a super shock wave every 14 days being the new moon and the full moon

I find much of my grow works in with the moons actions..very very successful it is too ...
very little of this is understood unless you are in a submarine and living in the west ...lol

she goes on the jab I trade her in ...lol

 

[Heisen]

No I'm not talking about veg or flower. You search the internet and all you get is people telling you you can't take clones in flower -

I am talking about specifics, like

time of day (near lights on - middle - near lights off)
In relation to when they were watered last (same day - day after - right before watering)

Stuff like that which usually doesn't come up in a "how to clone" conversation, but probably effects success rate.

Thanks

It don't. I take clones whenever I get the time. I get almost 100.percent every time. Success will.depend on environment, humidity, light intensity, and all kinds of other shit.

 

[Shua1991]

Scuff the bark on a lower shoot(unless you properly trimmed the plant beforehand)and then apply clonex to the area(sterilize/promote roots) then Cut a rapid rooter down on one side like a hotdog's bun- so you can slide it onto the scuffed part(where roots will grow) and tie something around it to keep it in place. You will have to maintain humidity/regularly drench the rapid rooter to promote root growth, as soon as you see roots, snip it off the mother plant and its ready to be transplanted straight into soil.

 

[Joebud]

Wow. So you do not cut it off the mother plant until you have roots established on the piece you want for a clone?

 

[Shua1991]

Wow. So you do not cut it off the mother plant until you have roots established on the piece you want for a clone?

Exactly, I began doing this as an experiment and it worked faster than the same clones cut away from the plant.

4-7 days for roots vs 2 weeks.

I first got the idea when I did't have clones of a specific "keeper" that was already in mid flower, so I did this to a shoot near the base of the plant and it formed roots in about a week, I'm doing it now with my Golden Tiger females in flower, they grow ridiculously fast in veg, to the degree I just can't fit them in my veg area in all seasons, this skips much of the space req's as the flower room can also assist in making clones, upon reveg the plants revert to normal and can be returned to the flowering room after a week or two.

 

[Joebud]

Rock and Roll. Thanks for the knowledge.

 

[Heisen]

Scuff the bark on a lower shoot(unless you properly trimmed the plant beforehand)and then apply clonex to the area(sterilize/promote roots) then Cut a rapid rooter down on one side like a hotdog's bun- so you can slide it onto the scuffed part(where roots will grow) and tie something around it to keep it in place. You will have to maintain humidity/regularly drench the rapid rooter to promote root growth, as soon as you see roots, snip it off the mother plant and its ready to be transplanted straight into soil.

Completely unnecessary. People wanna overthink shit. Just cut the shit off and root it.
Plants wanna live. They don't need all this extra craziness to get rooted. Clones shouldn't take 2 weeks to root under the right setup.

 

[Heisen]

Exactly, I began doing this as an experiment and it worked faster than the same clones cut away from the plant.

4-7 days for roots vs 2 weeks.

I first got the idea when I did't have clones of a specific "keeper" that was already in mid flower, so I did this to a shoot near the base of the plant and it formed roots in about a week, I'm doing it now with my Golden Tiger females in flower, they grow ridiculously fast in veg, to the degree I just can't fit them in my veg area in all seasons, this skips much of the space req's as the flower room can also assist in making clones, upon reveg the plants revert to normal and can be returned to the flowering room after a week or two.

Revegged plants go all wonky and take to long to return, why not just take the cuts when u need them and put the plants under low light. A 4 inch plant under low light will stay dormant for weeks and grow an inch a week. This method is pretty ass backward imo.

 

[H.A.F.]

I've been doing cloning more now but for me it is mainly for preservation, not mass production. I grow tiny plants (compared to most of you) and flipping them at 4 weeks means finding decent clones to take is tough. Since I top the plants anyway I have been cloning those tops other than scarring the stem a little the only thing I have used is aloe. Get it ready like you would for sticking in the root cube or dirt, but jam it into a chunk of aloe for a few hours instead.

After that you can stick it in a cube, soil, whatever. So far the success rate has been 100% but not fast, taking about a week since I don't use a heat mat. Tried the heat mat and I got roots quicker one time - and I cooked every clone the next time. Fuck technology

 

[H.A.F.]

One thing I have found handy is the half-size solo-cups instead of the regular beer cups. All the roots go sideways first so they hit the cup sooner and head south. Makes getting them ready to shove in a bigger pot go a little quicker I think. I use a dome here because my rH is generally low but nothing but the light it gets normally in the corner of a veg tent for heat.

 

[Shua1991]

Revegged plants go all wonky and take to long to return, why not just take the cuts when u need them and put the plants under low light. A 4 inch plant under low light will stay dormant for weeks and grow an inch a week. This method is pretty ass backward imo.

It's not the only method I use, it just a set it and forget it(aside from watering) on the more difficult cloners, the urkle hybrids ive grown were notoriously slow to clone, some landraces have shown similar behaviour.


My logic is, 1 plant is kept in the keepers/clones closet, when it's trained big enough(30+ shoots) I begin using this method, 100 percent success since and quicker clones.