I had more than 10 in that one day, plus the flu vaccine every year I was in. I can't remember what they all were but I remember saying to the Dr "Are you serious? I had no idea there were that many vaccines needed for a trip to the Middle East!"
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Damn! I just found out Eddie Van Halen died.
Highland Rogue
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That is the purpose of government schools, to make it easier to herd the livestock. It's been very effective.
Highland Rogue
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More importantly, did he start throwing male flowers ?Wonder what caused that guy to turn blue from drinking the stuff.
Man with completely blue skin dies at 62
Paul Karason, a man made famous after his skin turned permanently blue 15 years ago, has passed away at 62 after suffering a heart attack.www.google.com
Punisher84
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Just talking about this with a guy I used to work with today.
He had ibogaine treatment to help get him off the booze. Drinking was part of that job, we were pros at it. Some needed help others didn't. It really helped him, he has been off it over a year now.
I found with myself shitty diet = booze for me. If I eat decent, I don't have any cravings toward alcohol. Eating decent goes a long way, especially with sleep.
We both knew several guys who had ibogaine for pts(d), also know several who have really turned their life around after having ayahuasca treatments. More like saved their lives.
He had ibogaine treatment to help get him off the booze. Drinking was part of that job, we were pros at it. Some needed help others didn't. It really helped him, he has been off it over a year now.
I found with myself shitty diet = booze for me. If I eat decent, I don't have any cravings toward alcohol. Eating decent goes a long way, especially with sleep.
We both knew several guys who had ibogaine for pts(d), also know several who have really turned their life around after having ayahuasca treatments. More like saved their lives.
Now1more
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@Punisher84 Ayahuasca is something I've wanted to try for forever. I've heard of people micro dosing with lsd and having great results. The booze thing is interesting. I drink just to get to sleep. Doc keeps telling me how bad it is, but I'll sleep for at least a 4 hour block. Otherwise, I might lay there for 6 hours trying to get to sleep. If I'm lucky enough to get to sleep I'll wake up several times... Neuropathy, cramps, maybe a nightmare. I have a sleep disorder where I don't get fully into REM sleep. I think it's from a brain injury as over the past year or 2 I've started to dream again.
Punisher84
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I know of around a dozen guys who have done it that I worked with. Its helped. Some of them are completely new people. I know guys who were ready to end their lives, then they come back completely reset after 20 years of war they have the same "headspace" as they did prior to going into the military. Some of it is PTS stuff some is TBI, I am far from an expert. I have issues from TBI, ive had numerous concussions and been blown up several times. Lots of stress, I had a pretty intense 12 years of pills and alcohol (all approved by the government). I solved my problems with alcohol, once I got my diet and sleep dialed in the booze was a non factor. Everyones different.
As far as the sleep goes, you need to be tired. Ive probably eaten a 5 gallon bucket of ambien in my life. I drank myself to sleep for years. Now Weed helps me fall asleep. I won't say my sleep is the best it could be but its substantially better than a few years ago.
You need to be tired, diet, exercise, sleep all work together I think.
I have a routine I go through every night. Shower hour before bed, beds ready to climb in with a very dim light on in the bedroom. We sit in front of the fireplace in the living room for the hour before bed. No phones, no tv, no electronics, again just one very dim lamp, and torch a blunt or two. Usually we don't make it the hour, typically 30 minutes. Bedroom is kept at 60F, colder in the winter. No lights on, some noise app makes a rain sound on the speaker thing on the headboard, mainly to drown out the dogs snoring. Same routine every night, pretty much the same time. I sleep pretty good for 4-5 hours. Thats about all I require.
I feel like diet and exercise are the most important factors for sleep.
The biggest issue with drinking (and smoking weed) before sleep is both suppress REM, so you get the sleep, but you don't get the real rest you need. This is one of the reasons I try not to smoke weed on weeknights. I would love to do Ayahuasca or DMT at least once before I die. I'm not a big psychedelics type of guy, and the only kind I've done has been shrooms a handful of times in high school, but I have a lot of anxiety issues that I think a DMT or Ayahuasca might help me deal with better.
Speaking of DMT...this video had me dying laughing the other day.
Joe Rogan had a sleep expert on his podcast who said that everyone needs 7-9 hours, no matter how they feel after less than that, and there are studies that prove this. The issue is that getting less than 7-9 hours puts you at something like a 700% higher risk of making mistakes at whatever you are doing. He said that everyone going in for surgery should ask the surgeon how much sleep they got the night before and, if they answer with a number less than 7 hours, then you should reschedule the surgery...and he wasn't joking at all about that. He said the studies show that most surgical mistakes happen to doctors who haven't been getting enough sleep every night. He also explains how your brain deals with REM deprivation from drinking and smoking before bed and it's a very interesting podcast to listen to. He was saying that hardcore alcoholics that get the DTs when they quit, and hallucinate, are actually experiencing dreams while they are awake because their brain has been so deprived of REM that it is forcing the brain into that state to gain back what it was deprived.
Now1more
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Damn dudes! You both have given me stuff to think about. My life has been weird. I've had periods where I haven't drank or smoked in many years. @TreeFarmerCharlie @Punisher84
Now1more
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I grew up a military brat. Lived at LeJeune and other bases that were contaminated. I ended up in the ICU at 20 years old with angioedema with no known origin. The Navy just loaded us up with vaccines in the early 90's. Not sure, but I think my system was overloaded. Also, I've been treated for Lyme 4 times. I don't think you really ever recover from it.
Punisher84
Just some asshole
Sounds like I need to look this up.
I recently had one of my old master chiefs retire and move not far from me. We have discussed sleep a few times. We are both early risers, both up at 4, been doing morning workouts together. Bed is around 11. I don’t even need an alarm. I just wake up.
As far as mistakes. You’re probably right. I think when you’re a younger guy it probably has less impact. I know during my military years we got little to no sleep and drank a thousand beers every day and I know we were on point. That was 10 years ago. I can tell my mind isn’t the same on days that I drink the day prior now.
Punisher84
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I didn’t realize the alcohol and weed suppress rem. I’ll look into that.
Punisher84
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“Here take these pills” what are they? “Take them and move on”. Ok.
Yeah, I was the same when I was young and in the military. We often worked 12 hour days, 7 days a week, for weeks on end during the winters and we used to only sleep for 3-4 hours a night during those days.Sounds like I need to look this up.
I recently had one of my old master chiefs retire and move not far from me. We have discussed sleep a few times. We are both early risers, both up at 4, been doing morning workouts together. Bed is around 11. I don’t even need an alarm. I just wake up.
As far as mistakes. You’re probably right. I think when you’re a younger guy it probably has less impact. I know during my military years we got little to no sleep and drank a thousand beers every day and I know we were on point. That was 10 years ago. I can tell my mind isn’t the same on days that I drink the day prior now.
I haven’t had any alcohol in 13 years. I quit for good the day after my wife’s 30th birthday party after waking up on the kitchen floor and realizing I was getting too old to be acting that way. Alcoholism runs in my family so I figured I was going down a bad path and just stopped cold turkey that day. I still smoke (vape) weed sometimes during the week but try to take breaks often to keep the REM going. The first time I took a week break from weed I felt amazing for awhile. It was almost like a small reset of the brain to me.
Punisher84
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The best was drinking at the command till 6am, shower PT 10mile run.
We actually volunteered once to drive drunk on a closed course so the base cops could do drunk driver training with actual drunk driversThe best was drinking at the command till 6am, shower PT 10mile run.
Punisher84
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That’s hilarious. Ah the shit we used to get away with. ARI’s are a quick trip out of the military now days.We actually volunteered once to drive drunk on a closed course so the base cops could do drunk driver training with actual drunk drivers
Now1more
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Wow, this has got derailed. So, I'll just add to it. 93' I was stationed in Roosevelt Roads Puerto Rico... my first deployment. My hob as a newbie was to drive a bus for my squadron. I would run from to barracks, to the hangar with stops at the base Exchange and Commisary. Side trips were to the bars! Well I'd pick my buddies up and go "rodeoing" which is sitting on top of the bus seats on the far back and I would drive as fast as a school bus could on these dirt roads on base. Hit a pothole and see who would hit the ceiling. Stupid shit. But, it was fun when you're 19. Picking up a bus load of drunk Brits is a whole other story!