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BigBallzWillie

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Look up the suicide statistics during the pandemic. People who work in suicide prevention call centers have been reporting the number of calls have been 5 or more times the normal rate.
Bullshit, of course you couldn't back up your previous post so just saying more bullshit might get you by.......not.

The govt is sayiny 127,000 covid deaths. and you're saying there's gonna be a higher death toll from collateral damge from losing their jobs and such.
that's complete horseshit ....oh wait you are going to guarantee it......lmfao.
 

treefarmercharlie

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Bullshit, of course you couldn't back up your previous post so just saying more bullshit might get you by.......not.

The govt is sayiny 127,000 covid deaths. and you're saying there's gonna be a higher death toll from collateral damge from losing their jobs and such.
that's complete horseshit ....oh wait you are going to guarantee it......lmfao.
How many of those 127,000 deaths were actually a direct result of being infected with COVID-19? I'll wait for your answer because that number is just as made up as my statement. Do you really believe everything you hear on the news and read on the web? A sibling of mine works beside and assists the state medical examiner and they told me just last weekend the number of suicides has gone up a lot. You can call my statements bullshit all you want but I'm in the middle of one of the states that has some of the highest numbers and even people here are starting to get tired of all the bullshit. You put strangers at risk every day when you drive your car, but you still do it, don't you? Life is about taking risk. If you don't want to take a risk, then go ahead and isolate yourself, but don't think for one second that you have the right to tell me I have to isolate myself.
 
How many of those 127,000 deaths were actually a direct result of being infected with COVID-19? I'll wait for your answer because that number is just as made up as my statement. Do you really believe everything you hear on the news and read on the web? A sibling of mine works beside and assists the state medical examiner and they told me just last weekend the number of suicides has gone up a lot. You can call my statements bullshit all you want but I'm in the middle of one of the states that has some of the highest numbers and even people here are starting to get tired of all the bullshit. You put strangers at risk every day when you drive your car, but you still do it, don't you? Life is about taking risk. If you don't want to take a risk, then go ahead and isolate yourself, but don't think for one second that you have the right to tell me I have to isolate myself.
So I traveled to a different state 2 weekends ago...I live in Pennsylvania but stopped in Ohio and spent the weekend in Michigan. I was still wearing my mask because at the time, our county was still in a " red county " which means total lockdown basically. Anyways, during that weekend I did not see 1 person with a mask on in Michigan. I think I might have seen 1 other person where I was in Ohio with one on too. I wear when in public....only because I don't want to bring anything to my children home. Or at least try not too.
 

treefarmercharlie

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So I traveled to a different state 2 weekends ago...I live in Pennsylvania but stopped in Ohio and spent the weekend in Michigan. I was still wearing my mask because at the time, our county was still in a " red county " which means total lockdown basically. Anyways, during that weekend I did not see 1 person with a mask on in Michigan. I think I might have seen 1 other person where I was in Ohio with one on too. I wear when in public....only because I don't want to bring anything to my children home. Or at least try not too.
I have a friend who lives outside of Kansas City, MO and he texted me yesterday that they have to start wearing masks
 

treefarmercharlie

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My mother will be 80 in a couple of months and I would rather her take the risk and enjoy her life than go through what she's been going through during this pandemic. She is completely isolated in her house all week long and can't do shit. She can't see her friends at the senior center, she can't work for Meals on Wheels (which she LOVES), she can't go on weekly trips with her friends, and she barely gets to see her grand children and hasn't been able to meet her great granddaughter who was born 2 months ago. How is that fair to her? She is a healthy woman because she has stayed active her whole life and now the local government has taken that away from her, and you think that's ok @BigBallzWillie ?
 

hhibrownsbacker

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A large percentage of those 120,000 died from car accidents, heart attacks, and other things unrelated to COVID-19. They just so happened to have tested positive before hand. I’m not saying people haven’t died, but the numbers aren’t accurate, and this has been admitted by hospitals and I’m pretty sure the CDC even said that hospitals have been marking any deaths from patients who tested positive as COVID-19 deaths even when COVID-19 was not the actual cause of death.
Those numbers arent accurate? How about the dozens of semi-refridgeration trucks parked next to hospitals as temporary morgues. I guess that was normal for the common flu or whatever else you want to blame the deaths on.
 

NoWaistedSpace

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But your ok with all the huge crowds protesting? COVID is a threat, but not nearly as bad as the media portrays it. How many people do YOU personally know that has caught it and become gravely ill? I live in MA, which has some of the highest numbers in the country, and I know ZERO people who have been diagnosed. My closest friends know ZERO people who have been diagnosed with it. Everyone I know who says they have heard of people testing positive never seems to know the positive person personally. It always seems to be a “friend of a friend” who tested positive and/or died from it.
No one I know has had the "Cov".
 

treefarmercharlie

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Those numbers arent accurate? How about the dozens of semi-refridgeration trucks parked next to hospitals as temporary morgues. I guess that was normal for the common flu or whatever else you want to blame the deaths on.
I’m not saying that many people haven’t died, I’m saying that COVID-19 was not the direct cause of a lot of those deaths. Look it up and you will see that hospital administrators have admitted they marked any death down as a COVID death as long as the person tested positive....whether it caused their death, or not. This is a fact that you can easily find.
 

hhibrownsbacker

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My mother will be 80 in a couple of months and I would rather her take the risk and enjoy her life than go through what she's been going through during this pandemic. She is completely isolated in her house all week long and can't do shit. She can't see her friends at the senior center, she can't work for Meals on Wheels (which she LOVES), she can't go on weekly trips with her friends, and she barely gets to see her grand children and hasn't been able to meet her great granddaughter who was born 2 months ago. How is that fair to her? She is a healthy woman because she has stayed active her whole life and now the local government has taken that away from her, and you think that's ok @BigBallzWillie ?
My mother just turned 85 last week so I can relate to your reasoning BUT after speaking with her and with everyone else we have decided to go a different route. Other than for her BD party we all try to avoid the house needlessly. She understands what and why we are hesitant to visit. My moms healthy also and we will do whatever it takes to preserve that, so you go right ahead and let your mom take the risk rather than hunker down and try to get thru this. Personally Id chew my mom's ass out if I caught her going anywhere and I know if we were able to trade places she'd feel the same way.
 

treefarmercharlie

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My mother just turned 85 last week so I can relate to your reasoning BUT after speaking with her and with everyone else we have decided to go a different route. Other than for her BD party we all try to avoid the house needlessly. She understands what and why we are hesitant to visit. My moms healthy also and we will do whatever it takes to preserve that, so you go right ahead and let her take the risk rather than hunker down and try to get thru this. Personally Id chew my mom's ass out if I caught her going anywhere and I know if we were able to trade places shed feel the same way.
And we should all have the right to handle this situation however we want. My mother would rather be dead than keep going through this. My dad died a few years ago and all she has is us and her friends who she can’t see. While I think she should be cautious, I would recommend being cautious to her, but I never tell my mother how to live her life.
 

treefarmercharlie

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I think I’ve clarified how I feel enough, and I don’t have any intention of changing how you guys feel, so I’m going to tip my hat and bow out of this. I signed up here because I was tired of all the political bullshit over at RIU and I got sucked into it here. You guys do have more respectful discussions about politics but I just hate getting sucked into debates.
 

BigBallzWillie

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I’m not saying that many people haven’t died, I’m saying that COVID-19 was not the direct cause of a lot of those deaths. Look it up and you will see that hospital administrators have admitted they marked any death down as a COVID death as long as the person tested positive....whether it caused their death, or not. This is a fact that you can easily find.
Yes, you need a positive test to be marked as a Covid death. Please provide your proof about your "hospital administrators" before you ask others to look it up.
And please stop clinging to tiny red herring arguments...........do you really think that the bulk of the covid deaths are somehow fraudulent because you don't like the way it was totaled? Please........
 

BigBallzWillie

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My mother will be 80 in a couple of months and I would rather her take the risk and enjoy her life than go through what she's been going through during this pandemic. She is completely isolated in her house all week long and can't do shit. She can't see her friends at the senior center, she can't work for Meals on Wheels (which she LOVES), she can't go on weekly trips with her friends, and she barely gets to see her grand children and hasn't been able to meet her great granddaughter who was born 2 months ago. How is that fair to her? She is a healthy woman because she has stayed active her whole life and now the local government has taken that away from her, and you think that's ok @BigBallzWillie ?
Unfortunate , but yeah it's ok. Tough on kids too. You are just one of many, cry me a river.
 

BigBallzWillie

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How many of those 127,000 deaths were actually a direct result of being infected with COVID-19? I'll wait for your answer because that number is just as made up as my statement. Do you really believe everything you hear on the news and read on the web? A sibling of mine works beside and assists the state medical examiner and they told me just last weekend the number of suicides has gone up a lot. You can call my statements bullshit all you want but I'm in the middle of one of the states that has some of the highest numbers and even people here are starting to get tired of all the bullshit. You put strangers at risk every day when you drive your car, but you still do it, don't you? Life is about taking risk. If you don't want to take a risk, then go ahead and isolate yourself, but don't think for one second that you have the right to tell me I have to isolate myself.
You are all bullshit and hearsay........All your nonsense is " I know a guy and he said........"

Btw, your car driving analogy proves how far you are reaching. Even a third grader could beat that line of shit.
 

BigBallzWillie

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I think I’ve clarified how I feel enough, and I don’t have any intention of changing how you guys feel, so I’m going to tip my hat and bow out of this. I signed up here because I was tired of all the political bullshit over at RIU and I got sucked into it here. You guys do have more respectful discussions about politics but I just hate getting sucked into debates.
You are not doing any better over here giving advice than you were over there, that's for sure.
 
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