H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
In free states those are called charter schools. Unfortunately both are competing for gubmint funding because that is what you have to do now. But it woud be that solution.
Anyone else tired of this crap?
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Highland Rogue
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Agreed. I like the Bill of Rights, since the concepts embodied within it, would be true whether it was written down or not. Rights don't come from governments or pieces of paper.
The Constitution itself binds nobody, we've seen that government isn't bound by it and a bunch of slave holding aristocracy, Thomas Jefferson, et al, can't realistically give our consent for us , several hundred years later.
Only individuals can give their own consent, anybody who claims otherwise is engaging in word smithing. Beware the person who would force you to do things, "for your own good".
Highland Rogue
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I think I understand what you're saying, but at the risk of being a serial "know it all" , I'll mention a "free state" and "gubmint funding" are two opposing concepts. The presence of the Gubmint funding negates the possibility of actual freedom.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Exactly - and if the government was removed from the equation the charter schools are what would survive. Public schools would have to shift to that concept or fail and close.
Highland Rogue
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I wish you were free to open your school without all the red tape, if that is what you'd like to do.
I am a Minister of Peace and am on a first name basis with the Flying Spaghetti Monster. While I can't fly, I do enjoy spaghetti!
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
You would also then have universities that can only charge what their degree is worth. Conglomerations have been living on reputation that hasn't been proven in decades. Your "Ivy League" degree in gender studies still ain't worth a shit.I wish you were free to open your school without all the red tape, if that is what you'd like to do.
I am a Minister of Peace and am on a first name basis with the Flying Spaghetti Monster. While I can't fly, I do enjoy spaghetti!
Highland Rogue
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Or....band together and stop being forced to fund things they don't want in the first place. Then go about PEACEFULLY, doing the things they like and offering their services to like minded people, while leaving others with different ideas to pursue their goals.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
But the way it is now that requires a change in laws, lobbyists, lawyers, etc. If it was just forbidden for the gubmint to steal money for education - then REDISTRIBUTE IT how THEY think os best (for votes) - then the same "taxes" applied now could just be shifted to tuition. No change in the household budget unless it's a savings.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
@Highland Rogue thanks for letting me vent I'm high as fuck and enjoyed that LOL
I'm high as fuck and enjoyed that LOL
Whip Eurass
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Public schools - indoctrinating the population for decades. Not a chance in hell of changing that, but hella discussion.
Highland Rogue
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Agreed, an Ivy league degree doesn't impress me as much as it seems to impress the degree holder.
Got a couple academic types in my family...thanksgiving is a real hoot in my family, bunch of us know it alls, all talking past each other at once. I usually end up being the one who can answer their questions while stumping them with mine or worse, pissing them off when I point out the inherent contradiction in their lame argument. They paid more attention to repeating what they were told, than examining it for bullshit. I have a well honed bullshit detector and wasn't afraid to ask questions of teachers they couldn't /wouldn't answer. Started skipping school and smoking weed and now I'm old...how the fuck did that happen? Lol.
Value is subjective. I am not willing to pay $300 for a 10 pack of seeds. Others may be willing. In that case they should be able to, while I should be able to decline.
The biggest reason I finished undergrad degree at night years ago and began a graduate program, was it was supposed to be a ticket to advancement in my career at the time. Other than that, I learned very little and would have been better off learnng to weld or some other useful skill.
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Highland Rogue
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@Highland Rogue thanks for letting me vent
Come to think of it, I've got a little weed to test myself right quick and a garden outside begging to be planted.
hhibrownsbacker
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It sems to me that if you have one kid in school or five, I dont know how you could pay the bill on just what the average parent could pay in to it. Most folks don't have kids in school, and with lacking their influx of capital, trying to run and finance a school would be almost impossible other than to the very rich. Buildings cost money, teachers cost money, books cost money, utilities cost money, and so on. If most folks could afford to send their kids to a better higher quality school, they would.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
But with the gubmint out of it, the locals would control the content. Maybe actually teach them how to read and do math again and shit.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
My only point there was that maybe people that can't afford puppies shouldn't have so many. It is not MY job to take care of them.
And if everything wasn't handed to them for free they might realize this.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
I got mine on the GI Bill. I was going through a divorce and the extra $$ they give for living expenses let me get an apartment while the shit was finalized - and hang out with college kids
The education program is easily 90% female. Never intended to actually seek employment as an educator - who stays high... I had my share of crusades in my life. Fighting a liberal education system as an old man was never on the list.