Thca Diamonds Tek

Artisan_tek

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Anyone have a lead on a good diamond tek?


From what ive learned so far..

You have to use a large amount of material 100g's +
Blast bho as normal but instead of purging at a higher temp, bring it down to 60-70 degrees.
With the oil still runny, transfer into a small wide mouth mason jar and cap it off.

Now let this sit around room temperature. (can always use a heat mat to keep it at a constant 60-70 degrees )

Let it sit for 14 days. During this time make sure the pressure doesnt get to high inside the jar. Ive heard some say you can burp the jars without affecting the end product and ive heard others say that burping the jars affects the pressure inside which will cause the oil to become more of a sauce consistency The sauce is usually made up of very tiny diamonds inside a oil/diamond slurry but wont give us the bigger thca diamonds were looking for here

After 14 days you should start to see white crystals crashing out or falling out of the liquidy top layer which is made out of terpenes. Basically you will start to see the oil split into 2 different layers. The top layer being liquidy and mostly terpenes. and then the bottom layer being a white snowish color is your diamonds.

Leave it sit another 7 to 14 days until all the thca has fallen out of the terpene layer. Now we should have nice sized diamonds formed.


You can now throw it in a vac oven and purge the terps leaving the diamonds on the bottom of the jar to collect. Some like leaving it the way it is and mixing the 2 layers back together after some of the terps have been purged out effectively giving you a diamonds/terp mixture.

If i fucked up or missed anything let me no! Will revise as i experiment to find the most effective way to make them.:cool::alien:
 

Artisan_tek

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Just my opinion but fuck anything bho. Ur gonna get residuals. Just smoke rosin or full melt.
Honestly man, thats kind of an ignorant statement. Bho made correctly wont have any residuals. You think theyde be permitted to sell bho with high ppms levels?

Stop trying to scare people with misinformation. The only thing dangerous about bho is making it correctly. Like we've been making this almost 10 years now. Why dont you hear about butane poisoning from oil or all the bho in the world tastes like butane and residuals.

Sorry man but you dont no what your talking about.
 
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The BHO products for sale here in CO still list residuals on the label in those products...and they are made "correctly" and according to State/industry standards. I suspect the other legal states have similar allowances.

I first started making BHO in the mid-to-late 90's. By 2000 I had the wife sewing up silkscreen into bags and went to all ice/water extraction. Last year I bought my press.

It's not about not knowing what you are talking about.....it's about personal preference. Some see no harm in BHO products, others see no reason for them.

Long term smoking of weed has health effects. Can't lie there. I've had to adjust my approaches to reflect those changes after close to 50 years of daily toking. I can only imagine what folks will experience in 50 years who smoke BHO products. There will be a cumulative effect.....we just don't know what, why, or how much. I'm doubtful there will be fewer problems than we see with smoking weed alone....but I guess time will tell.

Fuckin' old people....
 

Artisan_tek

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everyones entitled to their own opinion. But dont spread misinformation by making a blanket statement like any bho is gonna have residuals. bc in my experience thats a flat out lie.

Like what do you consider harmful 50ppm's ? 100ppms? You suck more into your lungs lighting a cigar or a cigarette from a butane torch than you ever wiill from a batch of bho.

If there was anything left in your product, or your bho tasted bad like chemicals or something your doing it wrong and should find another tek to use. Ive never had that happen, not 1 single time in the 1000's of batches ive made has even 1 of them come out tasting chemy or like there was anything left in the oil.
ew lol

You really think bho would be as popular as it is if everyone was smoking some bs chemicals that were unhealthy for you and tasted like shit. Nope

Another thing, how much was your rosin press again? $1500? $3000? To much overhead for 15-20% yields. My overhead is about 50 bucks. You gonna press all that trim from those 4 plants you just harvested in your rosin press lol

Sorry if im coming off strong man but ive had this convo many many times since ive started blasting. Theres so much dis and misinformation in this industry. Its time to put some of these out right lies to bed.

Making it is dangerous. There no doubt about that. But your final product will not have any butane left unless your making it incorrectly. these are the facts from someone who has blasted since 2012.

and how it relates to diamonds, most ppl say your going to have a better extraction, and get bigger diamonds when you use bho. Live resin and rosin along with bubble hash will work as well but the best results are reported when bho is used
 
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Making BHO/solvent extraction here in CO is a Felony. Blow something up in the process and you get Arson charges on top of Drug manufacturing charges. Hurt someone else and get Attempted Murder on top of that. We've seen a lot of test cases here. LOL. That right there is reason to stay the fuck away for me and to spend a whopping $700 on an electric rosin press. I also quit smoking any BHO products almost 20 years ago....so that factors in heavily here as well. After almost 50 years of daily toking...I've seen (not-so-good) changes in my lungs...for sure...and I;ve had to adjust my smoking habits accordingly. I can't even imagine what I'd be experiencing if that were all "dabbing" time/etc with BHO products....both healthwise and tolerance wise. To each their own though. Yup.

To quell that misinformation you speak of on other fronts....I'm about 500 presses in on my press in a year and a few months. @ 7 grams min per bag...that's 4 pretty good sized plants (my plants were all about 1.5 pounds each this year) and then some.....LOL. If a guy truly spent some time in front of his press he could bang out quite a bit of product with this press and it's one of the smaller plated ones out there. Making/purging/etc BHO is also a time consuming process if done "correctly"....and even then...well...nevermind. For my own purposes...I enjoy sitting in front of my press in front of my wood stove with tunes on far more than I ever "enjoyed" playing with solvents outside in the cold. Heeehee. Again though...as we see here....everybody sees it differently.

The good thing is that there are Teks for both non-solvent made and solvent made diamonds and sauce here on the site so folks can choose how they wanna play. I've yet to find the time to play with it....but I truly wanted to thank @Cornfed Dread Creations for his contribution here in this realm as well.

Be safe folks.......
 

Artisan_tek

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Listen im not trying to argue or fight about this. all love guys

you like rosin. I like bho. Yes im sure you can press out some plants with a decent size press and a good chunk of time.

For the time money, yield and end product quality i just prefer bho.

and with bho yes your going to have a low amount of residuals still present in the end product. most states you cant have above 40 or 50ppm on the shelf. so right there should kinda tell you how safe it is to consume.

Ive never 1 time smoked any bho and said man that tasted like butane, or wow that tasted like a chemical. its just never happened for me.

In the end its all really subjective. its just hard to be making bho for this long and still hear folks talk about how theres to many solvents left in it oh there butane left in that like no these people have no idea what their talking about.

And yes most of us here no Please Do Not Ever Try To Make BHO At Home!! Its very dangerous and should not be done without the proper knowledge and equipment.

wrote this this bc i wanted to start a discussion on the different ways to make diamonds but were still stuck at the different way to make oil

I figured someone would of chimed in with you can still grow diamonds with rosin by now
 

Artisan_tek

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cap rosin in jar, heat to 85 -90 deg for 20 to 30 day , diamonds
So it takes a little longer with rosin? How big do the crystals form?

With bho whenever i heat past 80 it never ends up liquidy enough to transfer into the mason jar. Thought about just running it right into the mason jar to start with but deff want to make sure there isnt going to be to much pressure in the jar before caping.

Do you keep heat on it for the entire 30 days?
Do you purge the terps and extract the diamonds? or just leave it the way it is?
 

badmofo529

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It's not the butane that's cause for concern, it's relatively harmless as long as it's not a stupid high residual ppm, it's the mystery oils that come with the manufacturing and canning process. Unless you have a serious setup, where you can further distill and refine the butane before use, there is gonna be some contaminates.

As far as making diamonds goes, it sounds like you are on the right track. Future4200 is kind of the place to be as far as advanced extraction techniques go, it's probably your best bet for in depth knowledge on the subject.
 

SecretSquirrel

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It takes a lil longer with rosin if you don't heat it in the oven first. The crystals are smaller from what I hear but I don't know. I do not mess with the BHO stuff from what I gleaned is fully purge before you cap with constant heat 80 deg. What I seen is 21 days crystal formation didn't purge
 

Turpman

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That's what I would worry about is what didn't get removed during the refining process.
Benzene being the one that comes in to the gas plants that follows propane and butane around. And it is pretty bad even at .5PPM. No hate just stating what ifs.
I would look at a way to do closed loup and run the butane threw a purifying stage. Maybe charcoal or something first.
I have a hankering of doing short path distillation one day. No idea why. Just cuz. LOL
 

Gweedo

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I'm in the process of trying to make diamonds or jelly or terpsauce whichever you prefer to call it, I've seen it done very easily with fresh dried and frozen flower, that gets dry sifted to it's prime micron sizes then squished in a press, the rosin that comes out is cooked in a sealed Mason in the oven for a bit then cools on a 80 degree heat mat, if the terps are there in quantity to act as a solvent when cooked it should seperate as it's cooling on the mat, i don't have a freeze dryer so I'm gonna try co2 curing with dry ice and then dry sifting, but I don't have a press so I'm gonna Ethanol extract the sift and then add terps back sometime during the distillation process, I'm just combining some live rosin Tek with some Ethanol Tek, we'll see how it goes soon as my glass components arrive from overseas
 
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