Help with planning and building room

[High kev]

I needed some help planning and building my new grow area. Any tips or recommendations is greatly appreciated. So I basically have a blank space at the moment. After the wall is built I will either have ruffly a 20x20 area with 11 or 12 foot ceilings. Or I could make it 25x20 if I need to. One room is already built within the space. It’s about 7x8 room. There is a drain on the other side of the room I can tap into through the wall. I will be adding electric and water to the rooms too. So I need to decide where that needs to go too.

what I want out of this space.

1. Is a nice big flower room that I will be putting Hugelkultur raised beds in there. Either 4x4 beds or 3x3. Haven’t decided yet. I plan on having them on wheels so I can wheel them from the veg room to the flower room easily.
2. a veg room that can fit at least three raised beds.
3. Im in the process of starting my own seed company. So a room for breeding? Or should I keep males in veg room? What’s the best way to do this?
4. drying area
5. Water reservoir area
6. Slop sink area

idk anything else I need????

 

[bk-og]

Nice space man

 

[larf]

Nice. Even has a drain! Will that be the veg room?

I was telling someone yesterday that I wish I had a 20x20 room. I don't think I could handle much more than that by myself without compromising quality / sanity, but 20x20 would be just about perfect.

 

[H.A.F.]

I would have the males elsewhere until needed if possible, or at least in their own cubby with negative ventilation/extraction. One boy that decides to pre-flower in veg and anything with pistils is the area is polluted.

 

[Kulla380]

Agreeing with @H.A.F. keep them away from your girls.
Good luck Kev
I'll be buying your seeds for sure!

 

[m4s73r]

This is my kind of JAM!!!! Kev if you need something interactive to play with for grow room design, go check this out.

Design Your Grow | The bucket Company

Use the 4x4 flood trays as beds and the PVC as walls and its a perfect design tool for grow rooms.


1. Is a nice big flower room that I will be putting Hugelkultur raised beds in there. Either 4x4 beds or 3x3. Haven’t decided yet. I plan on having them on wheels so I can wheel them from the veg room to the flower room easily. Do the 3x3 for sure. moving 4x4 beds around that much is going to be a HUGE pita. How many beds are you thinking.
2. a veg room that can fit at least three raised beds.
3. Im in the process of starting my own seed company. So a room for breeding? Or should I keep males in veg room? What’s the best way to do this? Depends on how many males you wanting to keep. Keeping gentics is easy if you bonsi them. id use the 7x8 room as a propgation room and have a 2x4 tent just to bloom males in. Are you planning on lots of males, or just one or 2 good ones and them pollinating your females? Do you want to have the whole room go to seed or just like one bed?
4. drying area In the room? nope. Not unless your mono-cropping.
5. Water reservoir area, Not needed. Water from tap through a 3 stage filter.
6. Slop sink area. I have a spiral hose with a garden 9 in 1 sparyer that I use. No sink. Id proly put it by the drain.

 

[High kev]

I wanted to do at least six beds in flower room. I didn’t want the whole flower room to go to seed unless my seed business really takes off and demand is there. So in the future maybe. I wasn’t exactly sure how I wanted to approach the male or reversed female situation. At first I thought a whole separate room to put a male or reversed female in with other females. But wasn’t sure if that was the best road to take. I was probably going to relay heavily on what you guys thought was best way to do the seeds. I would probably be doing a few reverses females at a time at most? I feel like reversing females would be easier to tell what I have. Rather than hunting males. I’m gonna check that site out now

This is my kind of JAM!!!! Kev if you need something interactive to play with for grow room design, go check this out.

Design Your Grow | The bucket Company

Use the 4x4 flood trays as beds and the PVC as walls and its a perfect design tool for grow rooms.


1. Is a nice big flower room that I will be putting Hugelkultur raised beds in there. Either 4x4 beds or 3x3. Haven’t decided yet. I plan on having them on wheels so I can wheel them from the veg room to the flower room easily. Do the 3x3 for sure. moving 4x4 beds around that much is going to be a HUGE pita. How many beds are you thinking.
2. a veg room that can fit at least three raised beds.
3. Im in the process of starting my own seed company. So a room for breeding? Or should I keep males in veg room? What’s the best way to do this? Depends on how many males you wanting to keep. Keeping gentics is easy if you bonsi them. id use the 7x8 room as a propgation room and have a 2x4 tent just to bloom males in. Are you planning on lots of males, or just one or 2 good ones and them pollinating your females? Do you want to have the whole room go to seed or just like one bed?
4. drying area In the room? nope. Not unless your mono-cropping.
5. Water reservoir area, Not needed. Water from tap through a 3 stage filter.
6. Slop sink area. I have a spiral hose with a garden 9 in 1 sparyer that I use. No sink. Id proly put it by the drain.

 

[High kev]

I’m also going to need to heat the area. I’m thinking mini split?

 

[m4s73r]

I’m also going to need to heat the area. I’m thinking mini split?

Where is the room going to be? and what size lights are you using?

 

[m4s73r]

and is there a plant count limit?

 

[PuffTheMagic]

How is climate controlled in the area that the grow space is in? I would design a "lung room" into this is possible.

 

[PuffTheMagic]

I’m also going to need to heat the area. I’m thinking mini split?

I bought a 18000 BTU Mr Cool DIY mini-split to heat the upstairs loft area of my garage where I am building an office/apt. Its 40x24' and its a gambrel style roof so pretty high ceilings. I still have tons of drafts to take care of insulation to add but this mini-split has been keeping the area in the 60s. It has to run non-stop but its still cheaper than any other option I have at my remote location. I am very impressed with it. Plus, there is a $300 tax rebate on it. I could see these working amazing for a grow setup.

 

[High kev]

and is there a plant count limit?

I want at least 6 beds in the flower room if not more. Idk what to do about plant count yet. It’s still illegal here so I’m not waiting for them to come up with the rules. I’m gonna do whatever for now. Maybe go by the rules when they make em. But I’m gonna have to do them 6 massively big budding plants then. Haha

 

[High kev]

Where is the room going to be? and what size lights are you using?

Most likely all leds. Maybe some hps s mixed in for heat and a mixture of spectrums I’m not 100% sure yet but I a have a bunch leds already

 

[High kev]

Where is the room going to be? and what size lights are you using?

I’m thinking room will go here but I could extend it down to second green line or down to wall being built if needed

 

[High kev]

How is climate controlled in the area that the grow space is in? I would design a "lung room" into this is possible.

As of now there is no heat and it gets freezing cold but it stays pretty cool in the summer time

 

[Lanestrainley]

I would have the males elsewhere until needed if possible, or at least in their own cubby with negative ventilation/extraction. One boy that decides to pre-flower in veg and anything with pistils is the area is polluted.

You’re right about that my man!
I have had males for years. Kev needs to keep them in a different building and shower after dealing with them pre flower or not. It’s good protocol. But I’d have them in a separate building all together, hepa filters on all intakes and exhaust plus a swap schedule. I don’t keep studs that pre flower in a veg photo period unless root bound or other stressors, but for the most part that is part of my hunt criteria, everyone has their own parameters on what’s acceptable, for me it’s zero.

 

[H.A.F.]

Like it or not, once all those lights are up and running you'll get warmth. Gotta get to that point and see how much. You could probably math it out and come close with wattage and btu's and such but it would only be an educated guess.

If you get close to an acceptable room temp with all the lights on it would actually be easier to control everything than having multiple tents and rooms.

One stud veg-tent in the corner that ventilates through a super-duper filter then outside would be an idea.

Good that you are already adding drying space. I think raw cedar would be optimum, like building a sauna room without the heat.

 

[Lanestrainley]

If your vision could be compromised, I’d get that room outta there and make better use of the space. Split the room into 3
1. 2 rooms 7x20 10lights each on a flip so your panel can handle it
2. 1 centre room 6x12 use this space as the lung room, then in the remaining space build shelves along the walls 15” wide and use them for your clones all the way up the walls, get a 2 barrels to mix your nutes and a plumb supply to each space in a drain to waste system, if you have a drain issue, raise everything to a height that will work with a waste pump to remove the waste. This is basically the system I’ve been setting up for guys for years. It’s been in bunkers, shops, barns, basements, houses, garages you name it. Huge ones, small ones. If you must keep an array of moms and pops it’s prudent to keep them away from the main area because it limits chances of disease, pests and other problems. Since it’s the heart of the program the moms are the most important part and need their own space AWAY from the farm. The males are mostly for academic purposes in most cases so I don’t usually design shows accommodating them. I always recommend alternative lodging.

 

[Lanestrainley]

I’ll also say this, if it’s a new pad you also need to take into account of the off gassing, I’ve seen many people have problem with this and it took a lot to pin point the issues with the calcium carbonate precipitation from the floors.