2021 Veggie Gardens
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Fiddler's Green
Just a regular vato
We just had the last few nights hit 30°. Our beds are still empty.
One recommendation for anyone trying no-till in garden beds is use clover as a cover crop instead of winter rye. The grass comes back and grows too fast and tall in the beds drowning out whatever is around it.
One recommendation for anyone trying no-till in garden beds is use clover as a cover crop instead of winter rye. The grass comes back and grows too fast and tall in the beds drowning out whatever is around it.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
I did a test run of red clover in the garden, and bare spots in the yard. Good as grass to me.
I have a close friend who freaks out about every weed in his yard and wants the perfect grass yard every year. He always complains about how shitty his yard looks and then asks me how I keep my yard so green. I told him all I do is mow the yard, let the clover grow where it wants, and let the dandelions grow where they want. The dandilions eventually go away and the clover just blends in.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
It started out because I already had a few large patches of clover. Instead of mowing them down I mowed around and let them go to seed, then got a few pounds of those coated seeds that will just germinate next good rain and tossed them out.
Fiddler's Green
Just a regular vato
My germination rate with clover is better better than grass seed on my lawn. Probably because those tiny little seeds can make soil contact easier. I will admit winter rye is easier directly in ground because it's easier to terminate.
My mission is to cover my bare spots before they turn into moon dust sand pits. The last two years I've let the weeds do there thing in that spot and cut them before they go to seed except at the end of the summer I let them finish. The grass is slowly working itself in around the edges.
Plus our damn chickens and the wild turkeys eat most of the seeds. Mother fuckers
My mission is to cover my bare spots before they turn into moon dust sand pits. The last two years I've let the weeds do there thing in that spot and cut them before they go to seed except at the end of the summer I let them finish. The grass is slowly working itself in around the edges.
Plus our damn chickens and the wild turkeys eat most of the seeds. Mother fuckers
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H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Hay or something on top after you cast the seeds helps retain moisture, and hides some from the birds
Fiddler's Green
Just a regular vato
Straw or hay is like a magnet to them (our chickens are free-range). They just scratched it up and found the goodies underneath. Except in the garden where they aren't allowed.
Nobighurry
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I always toss in a bunch of cheap annual rye grass in with the other seed annual rye germinates in a just a few days, helps maintain moisture and protect the seed your wanting... Used to have free range chicken they can be hellish alright
Fiddler's Green
Just a regular vato
I'm going to try that on the gopher mounds. I'll give the rye a soak before mixing it up with the dirt as I rake it flat.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
That's what I like about the clover. If you get a patch started it will spread - like a weed. I have one patch that is just slowly taking over a grassy area and I keep it mowed.
There is another patch where it was mostly weeds so I let it grow out and suffocate most of everything else, and I hand-plucked the major dandelions and such. I don't mind the ones that just have a flat leaf thing on the ground and flower stalks, but the ones that look like spiny cabbage that grow like trees can kiss my ass.
Nobighurry
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Wow H.A.F. I just put pea seeds in this weekend, transplanted tomatoes etc. I am jealous
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Never grown them before. Had a pack of seeds and said what the hell
For what it's worth, that raised bed has old weed dirt in it. Good stuff.
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Finally creeping into Summer here. 39F this AM. Forecast is to warm to the low 50's which means mid-40's at my place....so we will likely start transplanting the (80!) tomato starts we have on hand over the next few days. Had well over 150 but set up a small stand down on the highway last weekend and sold a few...along with lavender/flower starts we cloned in the greenhouse this Winter . Made $250 in 3 hours. Decided to do a Sea of Green tomato style garden and just let the fuckers rip.
The weed is in the same, slow boat. Plants are jonesin' it to get up-potted and a bit smaller than usual......but I ignored the count totally so there's a few there. Gonna gift 6 to my new neighbor and plant up the rest. Still have to go out and bust up the root balls from last year and amend...but I'll get there over the next few days.
Beets are in. 200 onion starts in. Strawberry patches are bloomin well. Playin with some new ferts so that's always fun.
Clover is my nemesis here.....and we have some shit called Black Medic in the same family that tosses out yellow balls/flowers that each make a baby/spreads like fire. I have a wildflower garden I spend too much time in pullin that shit....and I've graduated to the sprayer and chems cus im tired of fuckin with it. Planted 10 pounds of wildflower seeds in April to fill in the gaps from the first seeding 5 years ago. Lots of sprouts comin up.
Also planted 10 pounds of native Western grass mix (with about 20% wildflowers mixed in) on my lower acreage and that is also coming up.
Creek is ragin' from snowmelt up high. We've had decent rains this year and everything is emerald green. Time will tell how Summer plays out/if we have a monsoon/etc. So far...so good.
The weed is in the same, slow boat. Plants are jonesin' it to get up-potted and a bit smaller than usual......but I ignored the count totally so there's a few there. Gonna gift 6 to my new neighbor and plant up the rest. Still have to go out and bust up the root balls from last year and amend...but I'll get there over the next few days.
Beets are in. 200 onion starts in. Strawberry patches are bloomin well. Playin with some new ferts so that's always fun.
Clover is my nemesis here.....and we have some shit called Black Medic in the same family that tosses out yellow balls/flowers that each make a baby/spreads like fire. I have a wildflower garden I spend too much time in pullin that shit....and I've graduated to the sprayer and chems cus im tired of fuckin with it. Planted 10 pounds of wildflower seeds in April to fill in the gaps from the first seeding 5 years ago. Lots of sprouts comin up.
Also planted 10 pounds of native Western grass mix (with about 20% wildflowers mixed in) on my lower acreage and that is also coming up.
Creek is ragin' from snowmelt up high. We've had decent rains this year and everything is emerald green. Time will tell how Summer plays out/if we have a monsoon/etc. So far...so good.
Nobighurry
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If you like eating peas these will ruin you for any other type, fresh off the vine kick butt in flavor, they like cooler weather, I should have had mine out a couple weeks ago but it kept snowing and freezing until last week, now they say record high heat by weeks end, from snow to 90 deg F in a little over a week, everything is messed up lilacs, tulips, fruit trees, all behindNever grown them before. Had a pack of seeds and said what the hell
For what it's worth, that raised bed has old weed dirt in it. Good stuff.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Sad thing is, I don't remember what the hell I planted. I don't know if they are the kind for stir-fry that you pick early wuth tiny peas, or f they are sugar snaps, where the pods can stay on like green beans.
My dad always had a garden so I have had plenty of stuff fresh that I haven't grown myself. I have just never had the real estate for 'row' vegetables. I can make that happen now.
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Those look like sugar snap peas.....which are used in stir fry or eaten right off the vine.. They will pod and make beans (seeds) but they are best eaten early, IMO. They get tough/pale looking when they get too large. Better to pop em off and eat em and they will send out more pods than to let them run.
Planted up the ganja today in 7 gallon pots. Amended the mix with some really nice 2+ year old compost, some peat, and VAM. Will let em run til sometime around the Solstice and then transplant into the bigger cans for the duration. Dropped in 6 new solar lights for a week or 10 to get em in the zone.
Planted up the ganja today in 7 gallon pots. Amended the mix with some really nice 2+ year old compost, some peat, and VAM. Will let em run til sometime around the Solstice and then transplant into the bigger cans for the duration. Dropped in 6 new solar lights for a week or 10 to get em in the zone.
My lettuce and cabbage seemed to really enjoy the rain and cold we got over the weekend.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
First "harvest". Actually I have picked some cherry tomatoes but they haven't made it out of the garden until now 
Left a few peas to get fully ripe and see what happens. If they get fat and stay green they could still be the sugar-snap's instead of the snow-peas. I think one can be used for both, but not the other.
And that is what mulberries look like. great for juice, but the stems stay on them with a vengeance. they separate from the tree like you see them with a gentle nudge once they are ripe. You can put a tarp down and shake the tree when there's a lot. But cooking with them is shit unless you want to snip every stem. If you try to pull them off the berries will squish before the stem lets go.
Left a few peas to get fully ripe and see what happens. If they get fat and stay green they could still be the sugar-snap's instead of the snow-peas. I think one can be used for both, but not the other.
And that is what mulberries look like. great for juice, but the stems stay on them with a vengeance. they separate from the tree like you see them with a gentle nudge once they are ripe. You can put a tarp down and shake the tree when there's a lot. But cooking with them is shit unless you want to snip every stem. If you try to pull them off the berries will squish before the stem lets go.